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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

Fri, 24 May 2013 13:44:05 +0000

From: Kurt Dommermuth 
Reply-to: kurt@dommermuth.com, Flash Coders List 

anyone using Zend?

http://www.zend.com/en/products/studio/features

Kenneth, thanks for bringing Dreamweaver up.  I have been using it for
years and have been happy enough, but I'm checking out phpStorm right now
myself and so far, I would have to agree that it's an improvement.  I'm
always leery of the fan boy mentality - sometimes to my own detriment. So
often there is too much hype and too little substance.  New technologies
and tools seem to be consumed like crack.  However, sometimes there really
is a better tool.  Maybe phpStorm?  Maybe Zend?

Thanks all.

Kurt

On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Kenneth Kawamoto  wrote:

> For what I do phpStorm looks perfect - it supports JS/jQuery and SASS, and
> it has FTP/SVN client. I'll try it out. Thanks guys.
>
> Kenneth Kawamoto
> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
>
>
>
> On 23 May 2013, at 23:35, Rick Hassen wrote:
>
> > if you really like Webstorm, some understand it to be a stripped down
> version of phpStorm (both by JetBrains):
> > http://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: kennethkawamoto@gmail.com
> >> To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools
> >> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 23:23:53 +0100
> >> CC:
> >>
> >> Webstorm doesn't support PHP :(
> >>
> >> Kenneth Kawamoto
> >> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 23 May 2013, at 17:35, Jon Bradley wrote:
> >>
> >>> There are many better alternatives for professional coding that
> >>> include automated building, unit testing, support for SCSS and LESS,
> >>> grunt, etc. I wouldn't consider Dreamweaver a serious platform for
> >>> building web applications. Useful for some, certainly, but there are
> >>> many better options out there.
> >>>
> >>> Probably the best for those that aren't vested in the Visual Studio
> >>> platform:
> >>> http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/
> >>>
> >>> Second best (by the same company):
> >>> http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/
> >>>
> >>> For just text editor usage, for the most part:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.sublimetext.com/
> >>> http://macrabbit.com/espresso/
> >>>
> >>> I'd personally stay way away from Dreamweaver. It keeps you bound to
> >>> a low quality workflow that's not scalable or efficient.
> >>>
> >>> -j
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On May 23, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Kenneth Kawamoto <
> kennethkawamoto@gmail.com
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I know it's a long tradition to laugh at Dreamweaver as substandard
> >>>> tool, but I actually use it daily, for two reasons:
> >>>> 1. Comprehensive jQuery auto-completion/code-hint as well as PHP
> >>>> 2. Built-in FTP & SVN client
> >>>> Obviously never touch the WYSIWYG editor.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please let me know if there are alternative with above equipped. I
> >>>> don't like to be laughed at. But I know none.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kenneth Kawamoto
> >>>> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 23 May 2013, at 16:17, James Merrill wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding
> >>>>> subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that
> >>>>> bundles a
> >>>>> bunch of good programming subreddits:
> >>>>>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnprogramming+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using
> >>>>> Dreamweaver. There
> >>>>> are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using
> >>>>> Aptana,
> >>>>> which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. I am
> >>>>> moving
> >>>>> towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's extremely
> >>>>> streamlined and
> >>>>> elegant, and I highly suggest checking it out. Adobe has been
> >>>>> working on an
> >>>>> IDE called Brackets that looks pretty cool too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson <
> alpha@cyberiantiger.biz
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get
> >>>>>> JavaScript
> >>>>>> under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
> >>>>>> development time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
> >>>>>> programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn
> >>>>>> world have
> >>>>>> moved to a Facebook group.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cordially,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kerry Thompson
> >>>>>> On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson" 
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/
> >>>>>>> JavaScript. Google
> >>>>>>> reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take
> >>>>>> advantage
> >>>>>>> of the experience on this list to get some advice on good
> >>>>>>> quality lists
> >>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>> this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's
> >>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>> JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the
> >>>>>>> supporting
> >>>>>>> languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill
> >>>>>>> for a
> >>>>>>> developer.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance guys!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Bryan Thompson
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>> Flashcoders mailing list
> >>>>>>> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> >>>>>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> >>>>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> James Merrill
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Flashcoders mailing list
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> >>>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

Fri, 24 May 2013 09:17:34 +0000

From: Kenneth Kawamoto 
Reply-to: Flash Coders List 

For what I do phpStorm looks perfect - it supports JS/jQuery and SASS, and it has FTP/SVN client. I'll try it out. Thanks guys.

Kenneth Kawamoto
http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/



On 23 May 2013, at 23:35, Rick Hassen wrote:

> if you really like Webstorm, some understand it to be a stripped down version of phpStorm (both by JetBrains):
> http://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/
> 
> 
> 
>> From: kennethkawamoto@gmail.com
>> To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools
>> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 23:23:53 +0100
>> CC: 
>> 
>> Webstorm doesn't support PHP :(
>> 
>> Kenneth Kawamoto
>> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 23 May 2013, at 17:35, Jon Bradley wrote:
>> 
>>> There are many better alternatives for professional coding that  
>>> include automated building, unit testing, support for SCSS and LESS,  
>>> grunt, etc. I wouldn't consider Dreamweaver a serious platform for  
>>> building web applications. Useful for some, certainly, but there are  
>>> many better options out there.
>>> 
>>> Probably the best for those that aren't vested in the Visual Studio  
>>> platform:
>>> http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/
>>> 
>>> Second best (by the same company):
>>> http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/
>>> 
>>> For just text editor usage, for the most part:
>>> 
>>> http://www.sublimetext.com/
>>> http://macrabbit.com/espresso/
>>> 
>>> I'd personally stay way away from Dreamweaver. It keeps you bound to  
>>> a low quality workflow that's not scalable or efficient.
>>> 
>>> -j
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 23, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Kenneth Kawamoto >>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I know it's a long tradition to laugh at Dreamweaver as substandard  
>>>> tool, but I actually use it daily, for two reasons:
>>>> 1. Comprehensive jQuery auto-completion/code-hint as well as PHP
>>>> 2. Built-in FTP & SVN client
>>>> Obviously never touch the WYSIWYG editor.
>>>> 
>>>> Please let me know if there are alternative with above equipped. I  
>>>> don't like to be laughed at. But I know none.
>>>> 
>>>> Kenneth Kawamoto
>>>> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 23 May 2013, at 16:17, James Merrill wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding
>>>>> subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that  
>>>>> bundles a
>>>>> bunch of good programming subreddits:
>>>>> http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnprogramming+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5
>>>>> 
>>>>> As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using  
>>>>> Dreamweaver. There
>>>>> are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using  
>>>>> Aptana,
>>>>> which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. I am  
>>>>> moving
>>>>> towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's extremely  
>>>>> streamlined and
>>>>> elegant, and I highly suggest checking it out. Adobe has been  
>>>>> working on an
>>>>> IDE called Brackets that looks pretty cool too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson >>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get  
>>>>>> JavaScript
>>>>>> under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
>>>>>> development time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
>>>>>> programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn  
>>>>>> world have
>>>>>> moved to a Facebook group.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kerry Thompson
>>>>>> On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"   
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/ 
>>>>>>> JavaScript. Google
>>>>>>> reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take
>>>>>> advantage
>>>>>>> of the experience on this list to get some advice on good  
>>>>>>> quality lists
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's  
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the  
>>>>>>> supporting
>>>>>>> languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill  
>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>> developer.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance guys!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bryan Thompson
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Flashcoders mailing list
>>>>>>> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
>>>>>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Flashcoders mailing list
>>>>>> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
>>>>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> James Merrill
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Flashcoders mailing list
>>>>> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
>>>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
>>>> 
>>>> 
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RE: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

Thu, 23 May 2013 23:05:56 +0000

From: Rick Hassen 
Reply-to: Flash Coders List 

 if you really like Webstorm, some understand it to be a stripped down version of phpStorm (both by JetBrains):
http://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/



> From: kennethkawamoto@gmail.com
> To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools
> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 23:23:53 +0100
> CC: 
> 
> Webstorm doesn't support PHP :(
> 
> Kenneth Kawamoto
> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 23 May 2013, at 17:35, Jon Bradley wrote:
> 
> > There are many better alternatives for professional coding that  
> > include automated building, unit testing, support for SCSS and LESS,  
> > grunt, etc. I wouldn't consider Dreamweaver a serious platform for  
> > building web applications. Useful for some, certainly, but there are  
> > many better options out there.
> >
> > Probably the best for those that aren't vested in the Visual Studio  
> > platform:
> > http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/
> >
> > Second best (by the same company):
> > http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/
> >
> > For just text editor usage, for the most part:
> >
> > http://www.sublimetext.com/
> > http://macrabbit.com/espresso/
> >
> > I'd personally stay way away from Dreamweaver. It keeps you bound to  
> > a low quality workflow that's not scalable or efficient.
> >
> > -j
> >
> >
> > On May 23, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Kenneth Kawamoto  > > wrote:
> >
> >> I know it's a long tradition to laugh at Dreamweaver as substandard  
> >> tool, but I actually use it daily, for two reasons:
> >> 1. Comprehensive jQuery auto-completion/code-hint as well as PHP
> >> 2. Built-in FTP & SVN client
> >> Obviously never touch the WYSIWYG editor.
> >>
> >> Please let me know if there are alternative with above equipped. I  
> >> don't like to be laughed at. But I know none.
> >>
> >> Kenneth Kawamoto
> >> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 23 May 2013, at 16:17, James Merrill wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding
> >>> subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that  
> >>> bundles a
> >>> bunch of good programming subreddits:
> >>> http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnprogramming+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5
> >>>
> >>> As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using  
> >>> Dreamweaver. There
> >>> are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using  
> >>> Aptana,
> >>> which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. I am  
> >>> moving
> >>> towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's extremely  
> >>> streamlined and
> >>> elegant, and I highly suggest checking it out. Adobe has been  
> >>> working on an
> >>> IDE called Brackets that looks pretty cool too.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson  >>> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get  
> >>>> JavaScript
> >>>> under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
> >>>> development time.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
> >>>> programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn  
> >>>> world have
> >>>> moved to a Facebook group.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cordially,
> >>>>
> >>>> Kerry Thompson
> >>>> On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"   
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/ 
> >>>>> JavaScript. Google
> >>>>> reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take
> >>>> advantage
> >>>>> of the experience on this list to get some advice on good  
> >>>>> quality lists
> >>>>> like
> >>>>> this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's  
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the  
> >>>>> supporting
> >>>>> languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill  
> >>>>> for a
> >>>>> developer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks in advance guys!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bryan Thompson
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Flashcoders mailing list
> >>>>> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> >>>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
> >>>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Flashcoders mailing list
> >>>> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> >>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- 
> >>> James Merrill
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Flashcoders mailing list
> >>> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> >>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

Thu, 23 May 2013 23:03:43 +0000

From: Kenneth Kawamoto 
Reply-to: Flash Coders List 

Webstorm doesn't support PHP :(

Kenneth Kawamoto
http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/




On 23 May 2013, at 17:35, Jon Bradley wrote:

> There are many better alternatives for professional coding that  
> include automated building, unit testing, support for SCSS and LESS,  
> grunt, etc. I wouldn't consider Dreamweaver a serious platform for  
> building web applications. Useful for some, certainly, but there are  
> many better options out there.
>
> Probably the best for those that aren't vested in the Visual Studio  
> platform:
> http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/
>
> Second best (by the same company):
> http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/
>
> For just text editor usage, for the most part:
>
> http://www.sublimetext.com/
> http://macrabbit.com/espresso/
>
> I'd personally stay way away from Dreamweaver. It keeps you bound to  
> a low quality workflow that's not scalable or efficient.
>
> -j
>
>
> On May 23, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Kenneth Kawamoto  > wrote:
>
>> I know it's a long tradition to laugh at Dreamweaver as substandard  
>> tool, but I actually use it daily, for two reasons:
>> 1. Comprehensive jQuery auto-completion/code-hint as well as PHP
>> 2. Built-in FTP & SVN client
>> Obviously never touch the WYSIWYG editor.
>>
>> Please let me know if there are alternative with above equipped. I  
>> don't like to be laughed at. But I know none.
>>
>> Kenneth Kawamoto
>> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23 May 2013, at 16:17, James Merrill wrote:
>>
>>> I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding
>>> subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that  
>>> bundles a
>>> bunch of good programming subreddits:
>>> http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnprogramming+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5
>>>
>>> As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using  
>>> Dreamweaver. There
>>> are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using  
>>> Aptana,
>>> which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. I am  
>>> moving
>>> towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's extremely  
>>> streamlined and
>>> elegant, and I highly suggest checking it out. Adobe has been  
>>> working on an
>>> IDE called Brackets that looks pretty cool too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson >> >wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get  
>>>> JavaScript
>>>> under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
>>>> development time.
>>>>
>>>> Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
>>>> programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn  
>>>> world have
>>>> moved to a Facebook group.
>>>>
>>>> Cordially,
>>>>
>>>> Kerry Thompson
>>>> On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"   
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/ 
>>>>> JavaScript. Google
>>>>> reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take
>>>> advantage
>>>>> of the experience on this list to get some advice on good  
>>>>> quality lists
>>>>> like
>>>>> this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's  
>>>>> for
>>>>> JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the  
>>>>> supporting
>>>>> languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill  
>>>>> for a
>>>>> developer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance guys!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bryan Thompson
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Flashcoders mailing list
>>>>> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
>>>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Flashcoders mailing list
>>>> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
>>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> James Merrill
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Re: [Flashcoders] Projectors...

Thu, 23 May 2013 17:15:16 +0000

From: Hans Wichman 
Reply-to: Flash Coders List 

Hey Eric,

I recently was wondering about this myself, and found a bug post about it:
https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3363321

Check the attachments on that page, it contains a createprojector.zip 
which might help, or just build an air projector.

best
H

On 23-5-2013 18:54, Eric E. Dolecki wrote:
> Has anyone been able to generate a more current AS3 file as a projector?
> I'm not talking about AIR or captive runtime, talking about the
> old-fashioned projector for Mac? It's just gone from the IDE and the later
> players have this greyed out.
>
>
>
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RE: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

Thu, 23 May 2013 16:44:31 +0000

From: Marco Terrinoni 
Reply-to: Flash Coders List 

Think Sublime Text 2 has a lot of those functions in the packages repo. You
can also version control via github as well as SVN. 

Reason I switched from DW was due to the CSS pre-processor packages for SASS
and LESS, and LiveReload makes authoring css so much easier.

Tis an amazing text editor, but it's horses for courses really. I still use
DW to setup sites and configure localhost server settings, but that's about
it. 


Marco Terrinoni - Director
MULARAMÂ  PRODUCTIONS
web design // animation // illustration
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[mailto:flashcoders-bounces@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth
Kawamoto
Sent: 23 May 2013 17:15
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

I know it's a long tradition to laugh at Dreamweaver as substandard tool,
but I actually use it daily, for two reasons: 
1. Comprehensive jQuery auto-completion/code-hint as well as PHP 2. Built-in
FTP & SVN client Obviously never touch the WYSIWYG editor.

Please let me know if there are alternative with above equipped. I don't
like to be laughed at. But I know none.

Kenneth Kawamoto
http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/



On 23 May 2013, at 16:17, James Merrill wrote:

> I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding 
> subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that 
> bundles a bunch of good programming subreddits:
> http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnpr
> ogramming+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5
> 
> As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using Dreamweaver. 
> There are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using 
> Aptana, which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. 
> I am moving towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's 
> extremely streamlined and elegant, and I highly suggest checking it 
> out. Adobe has been working on an IDE called Brackets that looks pretty
cool too.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson
wrote:
> 
>> I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get 
>> JavaScript under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a 
>> lot of development time.
>> 
>> Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the 
>> programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn world 
>> have moved to a Facebook group.
>> 
>> Cordially,
>> 
>> Kerry Thompson
>> On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript. 
>>> Google reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to 
>>> take
>> advantage
>>> of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality 
>>> lists like this one.  I also would like recommendations for 
>>> (Windows) IDE's for JavaScript, or general HTML5 development 
>>> including all the supporting languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that 
>>> seems a bit of overkill for a developer.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance guys!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bryan Thompson
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Flashcoders mailing list
>>> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

Thu, 23 May 2013 16:11:46 +0000

From: Henrik Andersson 
Reply-to: Flash Coders List 

Kerry Thompson skriver:
> Take it easy, Oren. There is no spam I've seen. It looks like something got
> corrupted in my reply, but that's hardly spam. I'm posting from a Caribbean
> island, and there might be some transmission problems-- this is a small,
> less-visited island.

Isn't TCP supposed to prevent that? It will either fail the transfer or
correct the error, never let corrupted data pass.
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[Flashcoders] Figleaf list for Javascript/HTML/CSS or other lists?

Thu, 23 May 2013 16:11:40 +0000

From: "Merrill, Jason" 
Reply-to: Flash Coders List 

Does Figleaf have a Javascript/HTML/CSS mailing list like this? I'd love to subscribe if there is. Or what lists are there out there for questions? I don't mean website forums, I mean e-mail lists - I find those easier to use, more accessible. 

Jason Merrill
Instructional Technology Architect II
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

Thu, 23 May 2013 15:59:34 +0000

From: Hans Wichman 
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tbh he "asked" million of times, but tnx dave ;) one less spammer hehe.

On 23-5-2013 17:51, Dave Watts wrote:
>> Oren, what's your problem??
> Apparently, he was unable to unsubscribe himself and unwilling to ask
> for help. I've unsubscribed him.
>
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

Thu, 23 May 2013 15:55:11 +0000

From: Kerry Thompson 
Reply-to: Flash Coders List 

Take it easy, Oren. There is no spam I've seen. It looks like something got
corrupted in my reply, but that's hardly spam. I'm posting from a Caribbean
island, and there might be some transmission problems-- this is a small,
less-visited island.

Be cool, Oren. the closest thing to spam in this thread is your profanity.
On May 23, 2013 11:16 AM, "Oren B."  wrote:

> Enough with the fuckin spam!!!!!!!
>
> Ã�Â�Ã�ÂªÃ�Â�Ã�Â¨Ã�Â�Ã�Â� Ã�Â�Ã�Â�Ã�Â� Ã�Â�Ã�Â�Ã�Â�Ã�Â©Ã�Â�, 23 Ã�Â�Ã�Â�Ã�Â�Ã�Â� 2013, Kerry Thompson Ã�Â�Ã�ÂªÃ�Â�:
>
> > I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get
> JavaScript
> > under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
> > development time.
> >
> > Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
> > programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn world have
> > moved to a Facebook group.
> >
> > Cordially,
> >
> > Kerry Thompson
> > On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript.
> Google
> > > reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take
> > advantage
> > > of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality lists
> > > like
> > > this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's for
> > > JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the supporting
> > > languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill for a
> > > developer.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance guys!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bryan Thompson
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Flashcoders mailing list
> > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com 
> > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com 
> > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
> >
>
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

Thu, 23 May 2013 15:22:13 +0000

From: James Merrill 
Reply-to: Flash Coders List 

I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding
subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that bundles a
bunch of good programming subreddits:
http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnprogramming+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5

As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using Dreamweaver. There
are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using Aptana,
which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. I am moving
towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's extremely streamlined and
elegant, and I highly suggest checking it out. Adobe has been working on an
IDE called Brackets that looks pretty cool too.




On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson wrote:

> I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get JavaScript
> under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
> development time.
>
> Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
> programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn world have
> moved to a Facebook group.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Kerry Thompson
> On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"  wrote:
>
> > I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript. Google
> > reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take
> advantage
> > of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality lists
> > like
> > this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's for
> > JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the supporting
> > languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill for a
> > developer.
> >
> > Thanks in advance guys!
> >
> >
> >
> > Bryan Thompson
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Flashcoders mailing list
> > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
> >
> _______________________________________________
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

Thu, 23 May 2013 15:21:09 +0000

From: "Oren B." 
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Enough with the fuckin spam!!!!!!!

Ã�Â�Ã�ÂªÃ�Â�Ã�Â¨Ã�Â�Ã�Â� Ã�Â�Ã�Â�Ã�Â� Ã�Â�Ã�Â�Ã�Â�Ã�Â©Ã�Â�, 23 Ã�Â�Ã�Â�Ã�Â�Ã�Â� 2013, Kerry Thompson Ã�Â�Ã�ÂªÃ�Â�:

> I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get JavaScript
> under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
> development time.
>
> Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
> programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn world have
> moved to a Facebook group.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Kerry Thompson
> On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson" >
> wrote:
>
> > I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript. Google
> > reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take
> advantage
> > of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality lists
> > like
> > this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's for
> > JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the supporting
> > languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill for a
> > developer.
> >
> > Thanks in advance guys!
> >
> >
> >
> > Bryan Thompson
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Flashcoders mailing list
> > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com 
> > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
> >
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

Thu, 23 May 2013 15:12:23 +0000

From: Kerry Thompson 
Reply-to: Flash Coders List 

I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get JavaScript
under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
development time.

Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn world have
moved to a Facebook group.

Cordially,

Kerry Thompson
On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"  wrote:

> I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript. Google
> reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take advantage
> of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality lists
> like
> this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's for
> JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the supporting
> languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill for a
> developer.
>
> Thanks in advance guys!
>
>
>
> Bryan Thompson
>
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